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		<title>By: C. Austin Rovenstine &#39;10</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. Austin Rovenstine &#39;10</dc:creator>
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		<description>Since I never got a chance to respond to this one in The Phoenix, here is some evidence that you&#039;re wrong about McCain&#039;s view of the Iraq war.  All of your quotes come from 2002, either before McCain visited the battlefield and spoke with commanders, or before the war itself.

NBC&#039;s TIM RUSSERT: &quot;What must be done in Iraq right now?&quot; 

SEN. MCCAIN: &quot;SEN. JOHN McCAIN, (R-AZ): First, could I say, Tim, the men and women in the military are doing a superb job. To see these young people in 125-degree heat with body armor and equipment on, they&#039;re marvelous and they&#039;re well-led and they&#039;re doing a great job. The problem is that they don&#039;t have enough resources.  There’s not enough of them, and we are in a very serious situation, in my view, a race against time. We need to spend a whole lot more money to get the services back to the people. We need to get the electricity going, the fuel, the water. And unless we get that done and get it done pretty soon, we could face a very serious situation.&quot;

11/5/03, Remarks To Council On Foreign Relations

&quot;To win in Iraq, we should increase the number of forces in-country, including Marines and Special Forces, to conduct offensive operations. I believe we must have in place another full division, giving us the necessary manpower to conduct a focused counterinsurgency campaign across the Sunni triangle that seals off enemy operating areas, conducts search and destroy operations and holds territory. Such a strategy would be the kind of new mission General Sanchez agreed would require additional forces. It&#039;s a mystery to me why they are not forthcoming. We cannot achieve our political goals as long as a strategic region of Iraq is in a state of fundamental insecurity.&quot;

4/14/04, Fox News, &quot;Hannity and Colmes&quot;

&quot;[W]hen I was there in Iraq in August, I talked to [the] British. I talked to sergeant majors. I talked to colonels and captains. And I came back absolutely convinced that we needed more boots on the ground. These people warned me. They said, &#039;Look, if you don&#039;t have more soldiers here, you&#039;re going to lose control of this situation and you&#039;re going to face an insurgency some months from now.&#039; I begged and pleaded that we send more troops. Secretary Rumsfeld said, &#039;Well, our commanders on the ground haven&#039;t asked for them.&#039; It&#039;s not up to the commanders on the ground. It&#039;s up to the leadership of the country to make these decisions. That&#039;s why we elect them and have civilian supremacy. We&#039;re now facing a terrible insurgency. We can prevail, but we&#039;ve got to have more people over there to get the job done.&quot;

4/22/04, Remarks To Council On Foreign Relations

&quot;I have said since my visit to Iraq last August that our military presence is insufficient to bring stability to the country. We should increase the number of forces, including Marines and Special Forces, to conduct offensive operations. There is also a dire need for other types of forces, including linguists, intelligence officers, and civil affairs officers. We must deploy at least another full division, and probably more.&quot; 
9/23/04, CNBC, &quot;Capital Report,&quot;

&quot;I think that we need more troops in Iraq. I&#039;ve thought that for a long time, election or no election. ... [I]&#039;ve been asking since a year ago last August. So I&#039;m not sure that the elections have a lot to do with it, but I&#039;ve been saying since a year ago August that we needed more boots on the ground....&quot; 
12/5/04, Fox News, &quot;Fox News Sunday&quot;

&quot;[T]he problem that we have here is that the Pentagon has been reacting to initiatives of the enemy rather than taking initiatives from which the enemy has to react to. Many of us, as long as a year and a half ago, said, &#039;You have to have more people there. You have to have more linguists. You have to have more special forces. You have to have&#039; - and the Pentagon has reluctantly, obviously, gradually made some increases. And the problem, when you react, you have to extend people on duty there, which is terrible for morale. There&#039;s a terrific strain on Guard and reservists. If you plan ahead, then you don&#039;t have to do some of these things. The military is too small. The good news is we went into Fallujah and we dug then out of there. And I&#039;m proud of the work. These men and women are magnificent. Their leadership is magnificent. The bad news is we allowed Fallujah to become a sanctuary to start with. So, yes, we need more troops. Yes, we have to win.&quot;

12/13/04, AP

When asked about his confidence in Rumsfeld&#039;s leadership on Iraq, McCain said, &quot;I said no. My answer is still no. No confidence...I have strenuously argued for larger troop numbers in Iraq, including the right kind of troops -- linguists, special forces, civil affairs, etc.&quot; When asked if Rumsfeld was a liability to the Bush administration, McCain responded: &quot;The president can decide that, not me.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I never got a chance to respond to this one in The Phoenix, here is some evidence that you&#8217;re wrong about McCain&#8217;s view of the Iraq war.  All of your quotes come from 2002, either before McCain visited the battlefield and spoke with commanders, or before the war itself.</p>
<p>NBC&#8217;s TIM RUSSERT: &#8220;What must be done in Iraq right now?&#8221; </p>
<p>SEN. MCCAIN: &#8220;SEN. JOHN McCAIN, (R-AZ): First, could I say, Tim, the men and women in the military are doing a superb job. To see these young people in 125-degree heat with body armor and equipment on, they&#8217;re marvelous and they&#8217;re well-led and they&#8217;re doing a great job. The problem is that they don&#8217;t have enough resources.  There’s not enough of them, and we are in a very serious situation, in my view, a race against time. We need to spend a whole lot more money to get the services back to the people. We need to get the electricity going, the fuel, the water. And unless we get that done and get it done pretty soon, we could face a very serious situation.&#8221;</p>
<p>11/5/03, Remarks To Council On Foreign Relations</p>
<p>&#8220;To win in Iraq, we should increase the number of forces in-country, including Marines and Special Forces, to conduct offensive operations. I believe we must have in place another full division, giving us the necessary manpower to conduct a focused counterinsurgency campaign across the Sunni triangle that seals off enemy operating areas, conducts search and destroy operations and holds territory. Such a strategy would be the kind of new mission General Sanchez agreed would require additional forces. It&#8217;s a mystery to me why they are not forthcoming. We cannot achieve our political goals as long as a strategic region of Iraq is in a state of fundamental insecurity.&#8221;</p>
<p>4/14/04, Fox News, &#8220;Hannity and Colmes&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;[W]hen I was there in Iraq in August, I talked to [the] British. I talked to sergeant majors. I talked to colonels and captains. And I came back absolutely convinced that we needed more boots on the ground. These people warned me. They said, &#8216;Look, if you don&#8217;t have more soldiers here, you&#8217;re going to lose control of this situation and you&#8217;re going to face an insurgency some months from now.&#8217; I begged and pleaded that we send more troops. Secretary Rumsfeld said, &#8216;Well, our commanders on the ground haven&#8217;t asked for them.&#8217; It&#8217;s not up to the commanders on the ground. It&#8217;s up to the leadership of the country to make these decisions. That&#8217;s why we elect them and have civilian supremacy. We&#8217;re now facing a terrible insurgency. We can prevail, but we&#8217;ve got to have more people over there to get the job done.&#8221;</p>
<p>4/22/04, Remarks To Council On Foreign Relations</p>
<p>&#8220;I have said since my visit to Iraq last August that our military presence is insufficient to bring stability to the country. We should increase the number of forces, including Marines and Special Forces, to conduct offensive operations. There is also a dire need for other types of forces, including linguists, intelligence officers, and civil affairs officers. We must deploy at least another full division, and probably more.&#8221;<br />
9/23/04, CNBC, &#8220;Capital Report,&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I think that we need more troops in Iraq. I&#8217;ve thought that for a long time, election or no election. &#8230; [I]&#8216;ve been asking since a year ago last August. So I&#8217;m not sure that the elections have a lot to do with it, but I&#8217;ve been saying since a year ago August that we needed more boots on the ground&#8230;.&#8221;<br />
12/5/04, Fox News, &#8220;Fox News Sunday&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;[T]he problem that we have here is that the Pentagon has been reacting to initiatives of the enemy rather than taking initiatives from which the enemy has to react to. Many of us, as long as a year and a half ago, said, &#8216;You have to have more people there. You have to have more linguists. You have to have more special forces. You have to have&#8217; &#8211; and the Pentagon has reluctantly, obviously, gradually made some increases. And the problem, when you react, you have to extend people on duty there, which is terrible for morale. There&#8217;s a terrific strain on Guard and reservists. If you plan ahead, then you don&#8217;t have to do some of these things. The military is too small. The good news is we went into Fallujah and we dug then out of there. And I&#8217;m proud of the work. These men and women are magnificent. Their leadership is magnificent. The bad news is we allowed Fallujah to become a sanctuary to start with. So, yes, we need more troops. Yes, we have to win.&#8221;</p>
<p>12/13/04, AP</p>
<p>When asked about his confidence in Rumsfeld&#8217;s leadership on Iraq, McCain said, &#8220;I said no. My answer is still no. No confidence&#8230;I have strenuously argued for larger troop numbers in Iraq, including the right kind of troops &#8212; linguists, special forces, civil affairs, etc.&#8221; When asked if Rumsfeld was a liability to the Bush administration, McCain responded: &#8220;The president can decide that, not me.&#8221;</p>
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